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Darth The Xx · May 13, 2009, 05:31 AM // 05:31

So I have noticed a large influx of monks who quite simply, have no idea what they are doing, in almost all areas of GW. Unfortunately you cannot just load a monk wiki bar and expect it to work, a good deal is down to the monk's judgement in each situation.

So! If you guys had to give ONE piece of advice to a new monk that YOU think is the most important thing in monking what would it be?

For me, I would go with. As a monk it is ur job to keep people alive, it is NOT you job to keep everybody at 100% and clean of hexes/conds 100% of the time. I find that a good deal of monks simply spam skills and run outa energy pretty fast so there it is.

If somebody is not in immediate danger of death, dont bother with topping them up, their dmg potential doesnt decrease when they have less hp.

Defqon2003 · May 13, 2009, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by Darth The Xx

So I have noticed a large influx of monks who quite simply, have no idea what they are doing, in almost all areas of GW. Unfortunately you cannot just load a monk wiki bar and expect it to work, a good deal is down to the monk's judgement in each situation.

So! If you guys had to give ONE piece of advice to a new monk that YOU think is the most important thing in monking what would it be?

For me, I would go with. As a monk it is ur job to keep people alive, it is NOT you job to keep everybody at 100% and clean of hexes/conds 100% of the time. I find that a good deal of monks simply spam skills and run outa energy pretty fast so there it is.

If somebody is not in immediate danger of death, dont bother with topping them up, their dmg potential doesnt decrease when they have less hp.

actually, most people tend to use 15^50 inscriptions/inherent mod or unconditional dmg, but most of the time its 15^50, so their dmg potential does decrease when they have less hp

Kinlo · May 13, 2009, 06:05 AM // 06:05

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Originally Posted by Defqon2003

actually, most people tend to use 15^50 inscriptions/inherent mod or unconditional dmg, but most of the time its 15^50, so their dmg potential does decrease when they have less hp

Right, but when someone is below 50% hp, it is time to give him a heal.

Winterclaw · May 13, 2009, 06:11 AM // 06:11

WoH is good, learning how to properly protect someone is better.

Kiva-chan · May 13, 2009, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Instead of glancing at the field and watching the bars.
Watch the field and glance at the bars.

Having a good level of field awareness will make you a better monk.
It helps you pre-prot effectively, avoid incoming damage and even see some of the conditions people are suffering from
(daze, blind, etc... are just an arrow on a bar, but are easily identified by their visual effect.)

Brian the Gladiator · May 13, 2009, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Advice for new monks... practive in RA. It is THE HARDEST pvp place to monk imo (GvG monk, HA monk, TA monk, HB monk, AB monk) all way easier than RA.

maybe TA is harder... but they are basically the same thing.

If you can win in RA on a regular basis, you can win anywhere.

Snow Bunny · May 13, 2009, 07:28 AM // 07:28

If it makes you or your teammates block shit, use it.

cataphract · May 13, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Don't walk around wearing obsi armor and fail gloves. You look ridiculous.

lompos · May 13, 2009, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Spam ur energy lvl when it's getting low

ogre_jd · May 13, 2009, 11:51 AM // 11:51

Do not let yourself get addicted to [[Healing Breeze]. While it is awesome for instant recovery from damage early on in PvE, there comes a point where you're better off just replacing it with another straight out healing skill. Just wish I could train myself to follow my own advice. :P

paddymew · May 13, 2009, 12:50 PM // 12:50

Try not to aggro.

sonofthort · May 13, 2009, 01:38 PM // 13:38

In my opinion, there are four things that will make you a great monk.

1. Vast knowledge of the games skills, and builds. If you do not know what a hex is just by looking at the icon, you cannot quickly react to it. Also, there are many popular builds out there, and strategies, if you are familiar with these, you will know how to react much more quickly and efficiently.

2. After you are familiar with the games skills and strategies, you need to work on efficiently countering the type of damage you are up against. I say efficient, because monks are not able to just constantly spam spells, and many times a simple five energy spell would be enough to bring a team mates health up completely, or protect them from damage for long enough that you can worry about somebody else or let your energy regain.

3. Somebody made this point before, but you need to learn to not only pay attention to your partys health bars, but especially to what is actually happening on the field. You will see who a sin is headed for, and be able to counter a spike, or you will see a broad head arrow coming your way, etc.

4. Knowing when to tank, and when to kite. Sometimes, it is better for a monk to simply tank the opponents, while your team nukes or just beats on them. Other times, it is nessacary to move around, and avoid damage. Some builds are good for tanking, some are good for kiting, know how to tank, and know how to kite.

Haxor · May 13, 2009, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Protective Spirit, Spirit Bond, Shield of Absorption, Seed of Life and Word of Healing are awesome. Learn to use them.

_Nihilist_ · May 13, 2009, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Just because a red bar goes down, a purple arrow appears, or a grey arrow appears doesn't mean that you need to immediately Heal/anti-hex/anti-condition.

So many new Monks spam for the all of 5 seconds that they can before they run out of juice, when at most, they might have needed to honestly cast a spell or two, the other stuff didn't really matter.

defect · May 13, 2009, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Don't use warrior attack skills.I don't care if your monk looks uber cool with his hammer.
Don't do PvP with a hammer monk.
It doesn't work in RA, AB, TA, HB, GvG, HA, JQ or whatever the other one was.

Well unless you're doing it for lulz.In which case feel free.Take your armour off while you're at it

bhavv · May 13, 2009, 11:47 PM // 23:47

I like to PVP on a hammer monk

.

I had a new monk in my party yesterday spamming heal party when just one person had taken a tiny bit of damage. Ran out of energy fast, and the damage that heal party was being used on didnt even need healing.

I just remained polite and didnt say anything bad, but should have said to only use heal party when several people are approaching 50% health from degen.

Practicing in RA is a good advice, on matter how good a monk you are, RA can be tough, TA even harder.

And as someone said above, obsi armor sucks

. Take your pick from Kurzick, Luxon, Labyrinth, NF or EOTN armors, but please dont just get obsi armor, destroyer gloves, and a ninja mask =\

_Nihilist_ · May 14, 2009, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Ok, so maybe one more thing. While Monking in RA is difficult, Monk in AB. With your Party Menu turned off. That includes the other 8 players that won't be in your Party Menu when you decide to hit "P" and take a quick peek (cuz you will

).

That is an experience.

If you are patient, it will help you with a few things:

1) Field Awareness - watching the battlefield, not the Party Menu. This is especially true because you have 11 allies, and 8 of them don't show in your Party Menu.

2) Why Shield Sets Kick Ass and how to Set Swap for Important Casts - because you're going to be a target in AB. All the time. The extra armor and HP from the Shield set will save your hind end, and you'll learn (if you work at it) how to swap from your Sets and back faster than a Team under "Charge!", which will do wonders for your casting, recharge, and enchant times, all while keeping your 60AL ass covered with a Shield most of the time.

3) Kiting - again, you're going to be a prime target, and these aren't AI mobs (ok, so the Shrines are, sue me), they are live players. Their aggro bubble is Line of Sight. Some will be idiots, some will be permanently stuck to you and dug in like an Alabama Tick. I don't care if you can't dance IRL, you're going to learn to be light on your feet and quick to duck and weave in here.

4) What Hexes/Conditions are Important to Remove, Which Ones can be Ignored - Dazed on a Physical isn't a problem, Blind on a Caster isn't a problem, light to mild degen isn't a problem, Empathy on a Caster isn't a problem, nor is Backfire on a Physical. You will come up against all sorts of builds in AB. Not many players have builds that synergize with one another like in TA, GvG, or HA. You will learn what Hexes/Conditions are top priority to remove, and how best to do so. You will learn what Hexes/Conditions are minor annoyances at best, and learn how to curb your instinct to remove each and every down arrow on your teammates.

Wish Swiftdeath · May 14, 2009, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Shieldswap

Straight after you cast a spell, cancel(escape if you haven't bound it to something else) and then swap back to your shield set, saves you alot of time taken to swap and means you don't get blown up in your caster set.

cataphract · May 14, 2009, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Good positioning, kiting and common sense all negate the need for a defensive set.

Use them.

If anything else, you'll look better and more capable than standing around with your voltaic spear and tormented shield. Defensive set doesn't make you capable or leet or pro no matter how many screenshots of monks in defensive sets people post.

glacialphoenix · May 14, 2009, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Hmmm.

My first thought was 'Don't over-rely on energy management skills.' The necro with BR can't always be BRing you. IMO e-management skills are, in general, a luxury, not the norm. Learn to deal with monking with less energy, and treat extra energy sources as a bonus.

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Defensive set doesn't make you capable or leet or pro

It's all in how you use the shields.